REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES
                                                                                       
REGIONAL TRIAL COURT
                                                                              7th J
udicial Region
                                                                                     BRANCH 7
                                                                                      Cebu City

PEOPLE OF THE PHILIPPINES,
                                           Plaintiff,

                 - versus -                                                                  CRIM CASES NOS CBU-45303
                                                                                                                                      and -45304

FRANCISCO JUAN LARRANAGA @ "PACO";                   FOR:   KIDNAPPING AND SERIOUS
JOSMAN AZNAR, ROWEN ADLAWAN @ WESLEY;                           ILLEGAL DETENTION
ALBERTO CANO @ "PAHAK"; ARIEL
BALANSAG; DAVIDSON VALIENTE RUSIA @
"DAVID FLORIDO" @ "TISOY TAGALOG"; 
JAMES ANTHONY UY @ "WANGWANG" UY
AND JAMS ANDREW UY @ "MM" UY,
                                           Accused.
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                                                                                T R A N S C R I P T
                                                                                      O F    T H E
                                                                 stenographic notes taken before HON.
                                                                 MARTIN A. OCAMPO, Presiding Judge of
                                                                 of Branch 7, Regional Trial Court, Cebu
                                                                 City, during the hearing on August 20, 
                                                                 1998
at 2:00 o'clock in the afternoon.
                                                                 

Present:
                                                                 HON. MARTIN A. OCAMPO
                                                                 Presiding Judge

ASSISTED BY:
                                                                  Mrs. Alicia L. Formentera
                                                                  Stenographer

                                                                   Mrs. Lucila C/ Bajarias
                                                                   Interpreter

APPEARANCES:
                                                                   Prosecutor Primo C. Miro
                                                                   Prosecutor Teresita Galanida
                                                                   Prosecutor Ramon Jose Duyongco
                                                                   Prosecutor Reynaldo Acosta
                                                                   Prosecutor Cesar Estrera                                                                   

                                                                   Atty. Honorato Hermosisima
                                                                   Atty. Bienvenido Saniel
                                                                   Atty. Hilario Davide III
                                                                   Atty. Joshua Dacumos
                                                                   Private Prosecutors

                                                                   Atty. Ramon Teleron
                                                                   For accused Larraņaga

                                                                   Atty. Edgar Gica
                                                                   Atty. Fidel Gonzales, Jr.
                                                                   Counsel for accused Aznar

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                                                                   Atty. Lorenzo Paylado
                                                                   Counsel for accused Uy brothers

                                                                   Atty. Alfonso de la Cerna
                                                                   Counsel for accused Adlawan, Caņo and Balansag

                                                                    Atty. Ferdinand Saornido
                                                                    Counsel for accused Rusia

PROS. DUYONGCO:
          We would like to make it record, Your Honor, that Davidson Valiente Rusia is now available for the further cross-examination of the other defense counsels.

COURT: 
          Alright. I understand -- well, he was already cross-examined by Atty. Armovit for 2 hours and 20 minutes.

PROS. DUYONGCO:
          Yes, Your Honor. 

COURT: 
          In fact, he only asked for extension of 15 minutes but the Court gave him 20. So it is now the turn of the other defense counsels to cross-examine this witness. You may call your witness, Fiscal.

PROS. DUYONGCO:
          May we call on Davidson Rusia to the witness stand, Your Honor.

COURT:
          But before he is subjected to further cross-examination, the Court wishes to issue an Order first. We are limiting further cross-examination of this witness up to 5:00 P.M. only today.

/to the legal researcher:
          Mrs. Mijares, will you read this Order of the Court for the benefit of everybody? 

                                                                                 O  R  D  E  R

          In view of the reported bribe attempt attempt on the accused-witness Davidson Valiente Rusia, who almost collapsed during his last appearance before this Court due to poor health - and who as manifested to this Court by the Prosecution in its "Motion to Discharge" dated August 7, 1998 "is the only one who can provide full eyewitness account from inception to culmination as to how, among other things, the Chiong sisters were first nabbed against their will; how they were brutally maltreated and sexually abused; and how Marijoy Chiong was killed in a most ignominious manner;" further, in

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in view of the time constraints (continuous trial to be terminated in 60 days) imposed upon this Heinous Crimes Court by Supreme Court Administrative Order No. 104-96 - as  well as the Speedy Trial
Act of 1998 - and in order to avoid the possibility of said vital eyewitness (or people close or related to him) from being killed, kidnapped, threatened, bribed, pressured, harassed, unduly influenced or whatever,
as explained in our Order of July 23, 1998 - the Court hereby resolves to limit or circumscribe further cross-examination of said accused-witness. 

          This Order is fully accordant with law and established jurisprudence, as shown infra:

          "It is the responsibility of the court to control the mode of interrogating witnesses and the presentation of evidence so as to foster the ascertainment of truth, avoid needless consumption of time, and at the same time protect witnesses from harassment or undue embarrassment" (Rules of Court Annotated, by Justice Edgardo L. Paras, Vol. 4, p.517, 1991 Ed.). 

          "While cross-examination is a right available to the adverse party, it is not absolute in the sense that a cross-examiner could determine for himself the length and scope of his cross-examination of a witness. The Court has always the discretion to limit the cross-examination and to consider it terminated if it would serve the ends of justice" (People vs. Gorospe, 129 SCRA 239; Anciro vs. People, 228 SCRA 629).  

          "Counsel who desires to cross-examine a witness whose testimony is or may subsequently become competent as to him should do so when witness' evidence in chief is given to the jury, so that counsel should avail themselves of the opportunity to cross-examine before the witness leaves the stand, unless the court for some good reason, allows them the privilege of cross-examination at a subsequent stage of the trial, and after a witness has once left the stand, the party who introduced him is a not bound to detain him for further examination on behalf of the adverse party. Where during proceedings early in the trial as well as during the state's rebuttal, accused's counsel is given ample opportunity to examine a witness, accused's rights are fully protected" (98 C.J.S., Witnesses, Se, 370). 

          WHEREFORE, cross-examination by the Defense Panel of the said accused-witness Davidson Valiente Rusia hereby limited/confined to today's hearing and the entire testimony of said accused-witness

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shall be deemed by the Court as terminated at exactly 5:00 P.M. today unless the Defense Panel earlier (before 5:00 P.M.) manifests that it has finished its cross-examination of said accused-witness or the Defense waives further cross-examination - and/or unless the Prosecution manifests that it wishes to conduct redirect examination of the said witness. The said accused-witness may be cross-examined by each defense counsel for more than 30 minutes - unless his fellow defense counsels waive their corresponding (30 minute) cross-examination of said accused-witness shall not extend beyond 5:00 P.M. of this date. 

          Given in open court at 2:00 P.M. this 20th day of August, 1998 at Cebu City, Philippines.  

                                                                                                                                              SGD. MARTIN A. OCAMPO
                                                                                                                                                                 J u d g e

 

COURT:
          Please distribute this Order.

ATTY. TELERON:
          Your Honor, please . . . 

COURT:
          Yes.

ATTY. Teleron:  
          In reaction to that Order, Your Honor, for our part for accused Larraņaga,
it was Atty. Armovit who was assigned to cross-examine Davidson Valiente Rusia but he had to rush back to Manila yesterday . . . 

COURT: 
          No, his cross-examination is already terminated. 

ATTY. TELERON: 
          Not yet, Your Honor.  

COURT: 
          He asked for 15 minutes more and the Court gave him 20. That is more than what he asked for. 

ATTY. TELERON: 
          I don't believe that . . .  

COURT: 
          The Court considers his cross-examination time was already terminated. 

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ATTY. TELERON: 
          We don't believe so, Your Honor, considering that there was a manifestation that one of the defense counsels would just assign his opportunity to cross-examine. 

COURT: 
          First, you were all here. The first day, he conducted his cross-examination
for 2 hours. At the end, he said I have to give him for next hearing, Your Honor. Alright, In fact, he cross-examined for 20 minutes. So, automatically, tapos na. (finished already.) Now it is your turn. Aba, hindi pala ikaw (Ophs, it is not you) because you are representing the same time. 

ATTY. TELERON: 
          Precisely, Your Honor. . .  

COURT: 
          So the other defense counsels may now cross-examine this witness. 

ATTY. TELERON: 
          Your Honor, please, in the last hearing, wherein this witness-accused was presented for his cross-examination, Atty. Armovit specifically implored the
consideration of the Court that he will just finish a few items regarding . . .  

COURT: 
         
I did not - I did not approve it. Did I approve it? 

ATTY. TELERON: 
          Well, it was because, Your Honor, at the inception of the trial . . . 

COURT: 
          I allowed him 15 extra minutes. That was all.

ATTY. TELERON: 
          Yes, Your Honor. But the understanding of the defense was that at the inception of the trial, it was categorically declared by the Honorable Court that while each counsel of each accused will be given a limited time, the other counsels may waive their time to the counsel who is cross-examining the witness. 

COURT: 
      Not in favor to Armovit because he has already terminated his cross-examination.
 

(NOTE: For the benefit of our foreign readers, blue wordings is our translation from Tagalog (Philippine language) to English ...the webmaster). 

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ATTY. TELERON: 
         
But it will be the option of the other defense counsels, Your Honor. 

COURT:   
          He is not here. So what do you want me to do now, postpone the trial? Is that what you want? 

ATTY. TELERON: 
          Precisely, Your Honor, please, considering that he was the one who started the cross-examination of . . . 

COURT: 
         
No, no, no. That is denied. You may now cross-examine this witness for 30 minutes each or more than 30 minutes if the other counsel waive their right in favor of the cross-examiner. 

ATTY. GICA: 
          May it please the Honorable - may we say something, Your Honor. 

COURT: 
          Yes. 

ATTY. GICA: 
          In
connection with the Order that has just been distributed, Your Honor, may we resave our right to make comments and/or . . . 

COURT: 
          Of Course. 

ATTY. GICA: 
          A reconsideration of the 0rder. 

COURT: 
          Reconsideration is denied. You may go to the Supreme
Court or the Court of Appeals for certiorari. 

ATTY. GICA: 
          So, may we reserve our right to do that, Your Honor. 

COURT: 
          Of course you don't have
to reserve your right. You can do that any time. If you don't want to cross-examine this witness now then the Court shall consider you to have waived cross-examination of this witness

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and we will send him back to the CIG and I will tell the prosecution to present their next witness. Are you going to cross-examine this witness now or not? 

ATTY. GICA: 
          W
ithout waiving our right, Your Honor, to question the procedure that has been set by this Honorable Court, in its Order, we are conducting our cross-examination questions for fear of being foreclosed, later on. 

COURT: 
          Yes, proceed. 

ATTY. TELERON: 
          Your Honor, please, we would also like to manifest that the presentation of Davidson Valiente Rusia today gave us a surprise because yesterday they presented a medical certificate attesting to the fact that this witness is to rest for 3 to 5 days. 

COURT: 
          No. 

ATTY. TELERON: 
          So that, we were . . . 

COURT: 
          At the close of the hearing yesterday, I said you may continue to cross-examine Mrs. Chiong unless the witness Rusia is available already for cross-examination in which case your examination on Rusia already -- further cross-examination. The records will show that I made that statement. Why are you relying on the medical statement - you rely on the Order of the Court not on the medical certificate or whoever issued that? 

ATTY. TELERON: 
      That's it, Your Honor but this is because of the confusing order of trials the prosecution has been following. 

COURT: 
          Yes. 

ATTY. HERMOSISIMA: 
          Your Honor, at that hearing when witness Rusia almost collapsed and he was excused by this Honorable Court from testifying further, it was clearly stipulated by this Honorable Court that the moment witness Rusia is available then he should be immediately be presented in Court. That is what we are doing now. 

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COURT: 
          Now we are wasting time. It is 2:05 P.M.. Cross-examination now begins. 2:05 - 30 minutes each. 

COURT INTERPRETER: 
          Davidson Valiente Rusia testifying under the same oath on continuation of the cross-examination. 

COURT: 
          Unless there is a waiver in favor of the cross-examiner by the other counsels. 

ATTY. TELERON: 
         
In behalf of accused Larraņaga, Your Honor, we reserve to question the Order of the Honorable Court considering that we still believe that we have the right to cross-examine the witness. 

COURT: 
          As I said, you don't have to reserve anything. 

ATTY. TELERON: 
          Just for the record, Your Honor. 

COURT: 
          Alright. You can always go to the Supreme Court
or the Court of Appeals. The moment I receive a restraining order.  I will stop with this trial immediately. That is understood. You don't have to reserve. You have been doing that all along. This trial was delayed for one year because you asked for a restraining order from the Supreme Court. Now you want to say you are reserving? Did you reserve the first time? You did not make a reservation. You're just wasting time. Paņero. (My fellow lawyer.) Proceed with your cross-examination. It is now 2:05. Now if you do not want to conduct your cross-examination, I will consider you to have waived for failure to conduct cross-examination. 

ATTY. GONZALES: 
         
Your Honor, please, for accused Josman Aznar. 

COURT: 
          Proceed. 

ATTY. GONZALES: 
          F
irst of all, I would like to adopt the cross-examination conducted by Atty. Ramon Armovit and in addition thereto, may we proceed Your Honor,

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COURT: 
          Go ahead. 

                                                                      CROSS-EXAMINATION BY 
                                                                   ATTY. FIDEL GONZALES, JR

      Q    What age were you at the time you left for the United States from Bohol

      A    The first time, sir? 

      Q    Yes. 

      A    About 11 years old, sir. 

      Q    About 11 years old? 

      A    Yes, sir. 

      Q    That was the first time that you left for the United States. You are not going to change that answer? 

      A    Almost the first time, sir. 

      Q    Alright, let's follow your story. Did I get you correctly that you took your elementary in the United States as well as in your Senior High School. That is right?

      A    Yes, sir.

      Q    So, if you took your elementary in the United States and you were able to reach senior high, that means you have been staying for 12 years because senior high in the United States Grade 12. Is that correct? 

      A    Yes, sir, that is correct. 

      Q    That is correct. So, when you left the United States at age 11, you were born in 1973, so you must have left for the United States for the first time in 1984. Is that right?. 

      A    No, sir, that is not correct. 

      Q    That is not correct. What is correct then? 

      A    I left the United States for about at the end of 1986.

      Q    You left the United States about end of 1986. But then you told the Court that you were born in 1973. Is that not correct?  

      A    Yes, I do. 

      Q    And you said you left when you were still 11 years old. So we add 73 to 11, that is 1984. 

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ATTY. HERMOSISIMA: 
          We object, Your Honor, misleading. What the witness testified a while ago was he left about. There is no . . . 

ATTY. GONZALES:  
          Precisely, simple mathematics. 

COURT: 
          Why don't you ask him this way - why is it that he says he is mistaken about? Will you explain why or how come? 

      A    Well, you see, Your Honor, you know, I grew up with my Lolo and then he died in '85 so in '86 about the end of '86 that's when my mother finally had a chance to petition me for the United States and then arrived in the United States , I was enrolled as a Grade 4 in elementary and then graduated in elementary and then I took high school there which is Grade 10. Now, when I came back and enrolled myself they told me that Grade 10 was a senior high school. That's why I said I was a senior high school. 

COURT: 
          Alright, that is his explanation. 

ATTY. GONZALES:
      Q    Alright, So now you are going to change your answer in effect because when I asked you that since you said you were a senior high school student you should have been Grade 12 and you answered yes.  

ATTY. SAORNIDO: 
         
We object, Your Honor. There is nothing that is changed in the answer. 

ATTY. GONZALES: 
          I am not questioning, Your Honor. 

COURT: 
          Let him explain his objection. Why are you objecting, Paņero? (My fellow lawyer?)

ATTY. SAORNIDO:
          He is asking from the witness, Your Honor, a misleading question. The witness did not change . . . 

ATTY. GONZALES:
          I have not yet even asked a question.

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ATTY. SAORNIDO:
          I object to the word change, Your Honor,

COURT:
          The witness explained already that point that it was about a difference of 1 year. Why does it make a substantial difference?

ATTY. GONZALES:
      Yes, there is, Your Honor and we will . . . 

COURT:
          He made a mistake about his age, or years in high school or what?

ATTY. FIDEL:
          Yes, Your Honor, that's very material to. . .

COURT:
          Or he is a big liar. Alright. You want to make it appear that way that because he made a mistake 1 year in schooling he is a big liar?

ATTY. GONZALES:
          Your Honor, please, may we . . .

COURT:
          Why make a mountain out of it when it is not that important. Proceed.

ATTY. GONZALES:
          It's very material to our case, please.

COURT:
          Alright, why is it very material?

ATTY. GONZALES:
          May we just proceed, Your Honor, please?

COURT:
          Go ahead.

ATTY. GONZALES:
          Now, so you are now saying that you reached only Grade 10. Is that right?

      A    Yes, Sir.

      Q    Did I get you correctly?

                                                                            CERTIFICATION

          I hereby certify that the foregoing is a true and correct transcript of stenographic notes taken in the above-entitled cases.  However, above transcription is only a portion of the proceedings because due to time constraint, the rest of the  proceedings  cannot be transcribed as of date.  Transcription  of  the same shall be continued any time today after this certification.
                                                                                 Cebu City, August 27, 1998.

                                                                                                                      SIGNED: ALICIA L. FORMENTERA
                                                                                                                                               Stenographer

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      A    Yes, sir.

      Q    Now, you were there enrolled in Grade 4 and then you reached Grade 10. So, we try to add how many years you were staying there. Okay? Now, Grade 4, Grade 5, Grade 6, Grade 7, Grade 8, Grade 9, Grade 10. So all in all, you were there 7 Years. Would you agree with me?

      A    For my schooling yes.

      Q    So you were there the whole 7 years. Is that correct?

      A    No, I went back here - after high school I went back here in '91.

      Q    Wait a minute. I am just asking you whether you were there straight for 7 years because you said that you
reached Grade 10?

      A    Yes, sir, I was there.

COURT:
          No, he saying that he came back and he was not there straight. That is why he's saying he came back.

ATTY. GONZALES:
          That is his answer, Your Honor. He said he was there straight. That's why I'm asking him again.

COURT:
          That is why he is explaining that he was not there straight but he came me back. When did you come back?

      A    1991, the first time I came back.

COURT;
      Q    So you were not there straight for 7 years. Within those 7 years you came back. Is that what you want to say?

      A    Yes, Your Honor.

COURT:
          He came back within those 7 years.

ATTY. GONZALEZ:
      Q    Before you came back to the Philippines you already reached Grade 10. Is that correct?

      A    Yes, that is correct.

      Q    That is correct. So, in other words, there was no time that you came back to the Philippines before you reached Grade 10. Is that correct?

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COURT:
          Did he not say he come back within those 7 years?

ATTY. GONZALES:
          Your Honor, I'm . . .

COURT:
          Sinabi na niya. (He already said it.) Why are you insisting that he did not come back?

ATITY. GONZALES:
          No, Your Honor . . .

ATTY. GICA:
          He said he came back.

COURT:
          He said he came back.

ATTY. GONZALES: 
          What I am pointing out, Your Honor . . .

COURT:
          And then you are insisting . . .

ATTY. GONZALES:
          No, I am asking him . . .

COURT:
          That he did not come back.

ATTY. GONZALES:
          He came back, Your Honor, but I'm asking whether or not he came back after he became Grade 10. That is my question, Your Honor.

COURT:
      Q    Within that 7-year period before you reached Grade 10, you came back?

      A    No. May I explain, Your Honor?

      Q    Did you not come back?

      A    Yes, I came back in 1991.

      Q    You were then in what grade?

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      A    In 1991 I was In Grade 10.

      Q    Grade 10. So you were in Grade 10 when you came back Grade 5?

      A    Yes, Your Honor.

      Q    Not before you reached Grade 10?

      A    Not before I reached Grade 10. I was to take Grade 10. 

      Q    You were in the United States from Grade 4 to Grade 10 straight?

      A    Yes, I was to take Grade.10,

      Q    Did you come back during that 7-year period?

      A     Yes, I was to take . . .

      Q    When?

      A    You see, when I reached Grade 4 because of my age, they raised me up to Grade 5. Now, that's when
Grade 5. Grade 6, Grade 7, Grade 8, Grade 9, Grade 10.

      Q    No. Before you reached Grade 10, did you come back to the Philippines?

      A    Yes, I dId, Your Honor.

      Q    What grade were you then when you came back?

      A    I was to attend Grade 10.

      Q    No. I said be fore you reached Grade 10. Did you come back when you were Grade 4 or Grade 5 or Grade 6, did you come back?

      A    No, Your Honor.

      Q    So you were In the United States from Grade 4 to Grade 10?

      A     Yes, Your Honor.

      Q    So, straight. You did not come back at all?

      A    Yes, Your Honor.

      Q    When did you come back?

      A    1991.

      Q    That Is when you were already In Grade 10?

      A    That's when I was about to take Grade 10.

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      Q    When you were about to what?

      A    When I was about to take Grade 10. 

      Q    You were about to take Grade 10. But you were there In Grade 9. Is that what you mean?

      A    Yes, and I passed Grade 9.

      Q    You passed Grade 9?

      A    Yes, your honor. 

      Q    You were about to take Grade 10?

      A    To take grade 10.

COURT:
          So that's his explanation. He was about to become Grade 10 when he came back to the Philippines.
          Proceed.

ATTY. GONZALES: 
      Q    Okay, let us just follow your story. So, you are now saying because there were 7 years for you to reach Grade 10 you have stayed 7 years and then you said that you came back when you were about to be Grade 10. So we will just know that you were there for 6 years. From 1986, we add 6 years, that means you were there In 1992. Is that correct?

      A    No, sir.

COURT:
          No, sir, he said.

      A     May I explain again, Your Honor?

COURT:
      Q    Will you explain. When were you in the United States?

ATTY. GONZALES:
          Your Honor please, there is . . . 

COURT: (CONTINUED)
      Q    During what year were you there?

      A    Okay, I was there - when I arrived there I had my '87 Christmas and then I was enrolled to Grade 4 and then because of my age, I was raised up.

      Q    So, when you wore Grade 4, what year was that?

      A    That was '87, your Honor.

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      Q    So from 1987 up to when were you there in the States up to Grade 9. What year was that when you were in Grade 9?

      A    I was there up to 1991 because I had . . . 

      Q    So from 1987 up to 1991, you were in the United States?

      A    Yes, Your Honor.

COURT:
          Alright. That is his answer.

ATTY. GONZALES:
      Q    From 1987 to 1991?

      A    Actually, I arrived here 1990.

      Q    So you arrived here 1990. It is no longer 1991?

      A    Yes, sir.

      Q    Oh, come on. How come you're always changing your answer?

      A     Okay, no. Your Honor, may I explain everything?

      Q    So, you want to explain again? You want to explain?

      A     You see, I'm getting confused . . .

COURT:
          Let us not use this harsh language to the witness. If he gave a consistent answer that is part of the record and we are supposed to ask him to explain. Explain.

      A    Okay. '87 I arrived there. No, you know, that was '86 and then when I arrived there I had December '87
which I had my Christmas there. That was my first Christmas in the United States. So I was enrolled in Grade 4. Now, because of my age, I was raised up to Grade 5. So I had my Grade 6, Grade 7. Grade 8 and Grade 9. And then, in '91 I mean '90, I went back there in '91, the following year I was supposed to be enrolled in Southwestern because my Mom followed me here in the following year. And you know since they told me I was only to be enrolled in third-year high school. I did not I said, no, because in the United States . . . 

COURT:
      Q   So what year did you arrive here in 1990? In 1990? What month in 1990 when you came back to the Philippines?

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      A   I think that was before December.

      Q    Before December of 1990?

      A    Yes, Your Honor.

      Q    What do you mean before December, was It November?

      A    I can't remember but It was . . .

      Q    Or October?

      A    Not it was after October because I had my birthday there on . . .

      Q    After October?

      A    Yes.

      Q    But before December

      A    Yes, but before December.

COURT:
          AlrIght, that Is his answer.

ATTY. GONZALES:
          Your Honor, please, may we request, Your Honor, that If ever there Is any explanation by the witness, which is not asked, It should be done on the redirect, Your Honor.

COURT:
          I'm the one asking the witness.

ATTY. GONZALES:
          I'm sorry, Your Honor.

COURT:
          Because I want to know the truth. I have a right examine and cross-examine witnesses. 

ATTY> GONZALES: 
          Yes, Your Honor.

COURT: 
          Alright.

ATTY. GONZALES: 
      Q    Alright. When did you say you saw the accused Josman Aznar?

      A    I met him In 1991, sir.

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      Q    What month of 1991 did you see him?

COURT:
/to Atty. Gonzales 
          You are given an extra 10 minutes because of the Interruptions.

      A    I couldn't recall what month It was, sir,

      Q    You cannot recall. And you told the Court that it was In Southwestern University that you allegedly saw the accused Josman Aznar?

PROS. DUYONGCO:
          Objection.

COURT:
          Ground?

PROS. DUYONGCO:
          Misleading. Not saw  - I met . . .

COURT:
          Will you reform your question to avoid the Fiscal's objection?

ATTY. GONZALES:
      Q    What do you mean when you say that you met Josman Aznar?

      A    He was Introduced to me by my cousin's friend. A friend of my cousin.

      Q    You were Introduced by your?

      A    He was a friend of my cousin.

    Q    A friend of your cousin?

      A    Yes, sir. 

      Q    Who is that cousin of yours?

      A    Andy Rusla.

      Q    This friend, what is the name of the friend of Andy?

      A    I don't know his real name, but I only know him as Sonjo, his nickname. His nickname Is Sonjo, my cousin's friend. 

      Q    Now, this Sonjo Is supposed to be the one who Introduced you to Josman Aznar. Is that correct?

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PROS. GALANIDA:
          Misleading to the word supposed to be.

ATTY. SAORNIDO: 
          We object to the word supposed, Your Honor. The witness did not testify to that effect about supposed - so misleading.

ATTY. GONZALES:
          It's not misleading, Your Honor.

ATTY. SAORNIDO: 
          Supposed, Your Honor. The witness testified that he was Introduced not supposed.

ATTY. GONZALES:
          Because we don't believe that Your Honor.

COURT:
          Why will you use the word supposed?

ATTY. GONZALES:
          Well, allegedly.

COURT:
          So, this witness according to you - yon nga, (that's it) according to you.

ATTY. GONZALES:
      Q    Okay, we will use the phraseology of this Honorable Court. According to you you were introduced by a
certain Sonjo to Josman Aznar and yet you don't even know the fall name of the one Introducing Josman Aznar?

ATTY. SAORNIDO:
          Already answered, Your Honor.

PROS. DUYONGCO:
          Argumentative.

ATTY. SAORNIDO:
          And besides, it is argumentative.

COURT:
Sustained.

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ATTY. GONZALES:
          Alright, I just want that on record, your Honor.

COURT:
          What can we do? It has not done damage. Maybe he does not want to tell the court or - what can we do? E kung ayaw sabibin. (So, if he does not what to say it.)

ATTY. GONZALES:
      Q    Now, where In thls Sonjo now, If you know?

      A    I don't know where he is now.

      Q    You don't know?

      A    I don't know where is Sonjo now.

      Q    You don't even know this Sonjo is residing?

      A     No, sir, I don't.

      Q    Definitely this Sonjo is not your close friend. Is he considering that you don't even know his family name?

      A    Like I said, he Is a friend of my cousin.

      Q    How did this Sonjo allegedly Introduce you to Josman?

      A     I was Inside the High School Department where where the canteen was and that's where we hang out and then . . .

COURTi
      Q    High school Department of what? What school?

      A    In Southwestern University, Your Honor.

      Q    Southwestern University. Alright.

      A    And I hang around there and then Josman arrived and then, you know my cousin's friend said that, That Is Josman Aznar because I asked him who was he.

      Q    So, It was you who asked your friend, your cousin's friend Sonjo, who Is this guy. Is that It?

      A    Yes, sir.

COURT:
          You have to speak louder because there is a tape recorder there,

ATTY. GONZALES:
      Q    So, in other words, you were not really introduced to Josman but you were just curious, asked Sonjo, who is that guy and so Sonjo told you, that is Josman Aznar. Is that right?

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      A    Yes, sir.

      Q    In fact, after Sonjo you that that is Josman Aznar, you did not even shake his hand because Josman Aznar just went thru?

      A    No, he did not went thru.

COURT:
      Q    What happened?

      A    He hang around with the other guys who were In the canteen.

COURT:
          Alright, that is his answer.

ATTY. GONZALES: 
     Q    But you were sitting on a table or what?

      A    No, there wax a seat on the side like in a lobby, you know, where there's a seat there.

      Q    So you saw Josman Aznar and he had some friends with him talking. Is that right?

      A    Yes, I saw him talking to some of the guys,

      Q    You know those friends of his that you saw that he was talking to?

      A    They were just guys hanging around there.

      Q    You don't know those guys?

      A    No, sir.

      Q    You don't know anyone there except Josman Aznar. Is that right?

      A    My cousin's friend.

      Q    Oh, yes, because you were with your cousin's friend?
 
      A    Yes, Sir.

      Q    So, it was only your cousin's friend and Josman Aznar whom you know on that particular day that you allegedly saw Josman Aznar. Is that right?

      A    Yes, Sir.

      Q    What time was that of the day?

      A    I cannot recall that, sir.

      Q    You cannot recall. So you cannot recall whether it was morning, you cannot recall whether it was in the afternoon, neither could you recall whether it was in the evening. Is that what you want to say?

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ATTY SAORNIDO:
          We object, Your Honor, misleading. He could not recall the time but that would be different if he is asked about morning, afternoon. The time he - is referring to time, Your Honor.

COURT:
          Alright.

ATTY. TELERON: 
          Your Honor, may we remind again that the objections only will be stated not explanation.

ATTY. SAORNIDO:

          Misleading, Your Honor.

ATTY. TELERON:
          This has always been done by the prosecution, Your Honor. May we also request the Court that It be a warning to the prosecution.

COURT:
          Alright, we are warning the prosecution to first state the objections ground before explaining. That Is the rule. Proceed.

ATTY. GONZALES:
      Q    You did not even have a chance to talk to Josman Aznar on that day. In that right?

      A    Yes, sir,, that's right.

      Q    And so when was the next time that you saw Josman Aznar that was on July 16, 1997 at Ayala?

      A    No, that was not the next time.

      Q    When was the second time that you allegedly met this Josman Aznar?

      A    Way back In '91 I saw him in the same place hanging around there a couple of times. That was back in 1991.

      Q    By the way, where were you residing then In 1991?

      A    In Labangon.

      Q    With whom?

      A    My auntie.

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      Q    Of your aunt. What about your Dad?

      A    My Dad wasn't around.

      Q    By the way, the definition of a person who is a son with unmarried parents or illegitimate child is called bastard. Would you consider yourself a bastard?

PROS. DUYONGCO;
          No basis, Your Honor.

ATTY. SAORNIDO:
We object, Your Honor. No basis.

ATTY. HERMOSISIMA:
And immaterial, Your Honor, please.

COURT:
      And besides, it is embarrassing to the witness and there is no basis that he is . . .

ATTY. GONZALES:
      Q    Is your . . .

COURT:
      That what? That he is an illegitimate child. Is that that what you are trying to say?

ATTY. GONZALES:
      Q    Is your mother and father married to each other?

      A    No, they are not, sir.

      Q    So that means you are an illegitimate child. Is that right?

      A    That's correct.

      Q    What would you be doing there in Southwestern University on the first day?

      A     Like a normal teenager hang around.

      Q    Like a normal teenager hang around. And would you consider yourself hanging around at Ayala your being a normal teenager?

      A    Yes, it is. It is normal.

COURT:
          Why, was he a teenager at the time of the commission of the offense? The way I see him - last year - he is 
no longer a teenager. Are you referring to that?

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ATTY. GONZALES:
          Yes, Your Honor,

COURT:
          He is hanging around . . . 

ATTY. GONZALES:
          Yes, and then he answers . . . 

COURT:
          That is misleading because he is no longer a teenager like you. He Is only 23 now.

ATTY. GONZALES: 
          That's why, Your Honor, he is answering because he feels he is still a teenager.

COURT:
          Last year he was 22 and when you say that he assumed he was a teenager, you are misleading the witness.

ATTY. GONZALES:
          No. You were hanging around just like a teenager.

PROS. GALANIDA:
          Just like a normal teenager.

ATTY. GONZALES:
          It Is not that I'm saying that he is a teenager.

COURT:
          Alright. Do not assume that he was a teenager last year because he was already 22. Alright, that is all I want to say, Do not assume.

ATTY. GICA:
          Your Honor, please . . .

COURT:
          That he was a teenager because a 22-year old son e hindi na (is not anymore) teenager. Unless you want to consider yourself a  teenager also.

ATTY. GICA:
          Your Honor, it is not an assumption . . . 

COURT:
          Yon na lang, ha? (That's all only, ha?) Biro lang, (Joke only,) Joke only. Proceed. 

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ATTY. GICA:
          It's an attitude, Your Honor, which we are trying to . . .

COURT:
          Blnlbiro ko lang si Paņero, o. (I am only fooling my fellow lawyer, ok.) Proceed. 

ATTY. GICA:
          Thank you, Your Honor.

COURT:
          Yes. 22 na. (already) Ikaw naman, O. (You only, ok.)

ATTY. GONZALES:
      Q    Who was with you when you allegedly saw for the second time Josman Aznar?

ATTY. GONZALES:
      Q    I would like to make It of record, Your Honor, that tile witness is not answering. 

PROS. GALANIDA:
          The witness is thinking, Your Hono