REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES
                                                                                       
REGIONAL TRIAL COURT
                                                                              7th J
udicial Region
                                                                                     BRANCH 7
                                                                                      Cebu City

PEOPLE OF THE PHILIPPINES,
                                           Plaintiff,

                 - versus -                                                                  CRIM CASES NOS CBU-45303
                                                                                                                                      and -45304

FRANCISCO JUAN LARRANAGA @ "PACO";                   FOR:   KIDNAPPING AND SERIOUS
JOSMAN AZNAR, ROWEN ADLAWAN @ WESLEY;                           ILLEGAL DETENTION
ALBERTO CANO @ "PAHAK"; ARIEL
BALANSAG; DAVIDSON VALIENTE RUSIA @
"DAVID FLORIDO" @ "TISOY TAGALOG"; 
JAMES ANTHONY UY @ "WANGWANG" UY
AND JAMS ANDREW UY @ "MM" UY,
                                           Accused.
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                                                                                T R A N S C R I P T
                                                                                            of the
                                                                 stenographic notes taken during the
                                                                 hearing of the above-entitled case
                                                                 before HON. MARTIN A. OCAMPO, Presi-
                                                                 ding Judge of Branch 7, Regional Trial
                                                                 Court of Cebu City on August 13, 1998 at
                                                                 2:15 o'clock in the afternoon.

Present:
                                                                 HON. MARTIN A. OCAMPO
                                                                 Presiding Judge

ASSISTED BY:
                                                                  MS. FARAH T. ABANGAN
                                                                  Court Stenographer

                                                                   MS. LUCIA C. BAJARIAS
                                                                   Court Interpreter

APPEARANCE:
                                                                   PROSECUTOR PRIMO C. MIRO
                                                                   PROSECUTOR RAMON JOSE DUYONGCO
                                                                   PROSECUTOR TERESITA GALANIDA
                                                                   PROSECUTOR CESAR ESTRERA
                                                                   (Appearing for the State)

                                                                   ATTY. HONORATO HERMOSISIMA
                                                                   ATTY. HILARIO DAVIDE III
                                                                   ATTY. BIENVENIDO SANIEL
                                                                   (Appearing as private prosecutors)

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                                                                   ATTY. RAYMUNDO ARMOVIT
                                                                   ATTY. RAMON TELERON
                                                                   (Counsel for accused Larranaga)

                                                                    ATTY. EDGAR GICA
                                                                    ATTY. FIDEL GONZALES, JR.
                                                                    (Counsel for accused Aznar)

                                                                     ATTY. ALFONSO DELA CERNA
                                                                     (Counsel for accused Adlawan, Cano
                                                                      and Balansag)

                                                                      ATTY. LORENZO PAYLADO
                                                                      (Counsel for accused Uy brothers)

                                                                    ATTY. FERNANDO GUBALANE
                                                                    ATTY. CORNELIUS GONZALEZ
                                                                    (Counsel for accused Rusia)

                                                                      

COURT:   (TO COURT INTERPRETER)
          Call the cases.

COURT INTERPRETER: (CALLING THE CASES)
            CRIMINAL CASES NOS. CBU-45303 AND 45304 PEOPLE OF THE PHILIPPINES PLAINTIFF VERSUS FRANCISCO JUAN LARRANAGA "PACO"; JOSMAN AZNAR; ROWEN ADLAWAN @ "WESLEY"; ALBERTO CANO @ "PAHAK"; ARIEL BALANSAG; DAVIDSON VALIENTE RUSIA @ "DAVID FLORIDO"@ "TISOY TAGALOG"; JAMES ANTHONY UY @ "WANGWANG"; AND JAMES ANDREW UY @ "MM" UY, ACCUSED FOR KIDNAPPING AND SERIOUS ILLEGAL DETENTION.

PROS. MIRO:
          We appear for the state, Your Honor.

ATTY. HERMOSISIMA:
          Respectfully appearing as private prosecutions, Your Honor, in collaboration with Atty. Hilario Davide III, and Bievenido Saniel.

ATTY. ARMOVIT:
          Appearing as counsel for  accused Larranaga, Your Honor, in collaboration with Atty. Ramon Teleron.

ATTY. GICA:
          For accused Aznar, Your Honor, in collaboration with Atty. Fidel Gonzales.

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ATTY. DELA CERNA:
          Appearing for accused Adlawan, Cano and Balansag, Your Honor.

ATTY. PAYLADO:
          For accused Uy brothers, Your Honor.

ATTY. GUBALENE:
          For accused Rusia, Your Honor.

COURT:
          Are you ready to proceed with he cross-examination of the witness?

PROS. MIRO: 
          Ready, Your Honor. 

COURT: 
          This is the Order on the hearing yesterday.
           /to Court Interpreter: 

          Give them a copy. That matter about the probable cause is included there already which you requested in the first paragraph.

 ATTY. ARMOVIT: 
          Thank you, Your Honor. 

COURT: 
          Let us agree on cross-examination time because the prosecution will be allowed to cross-examine each defense witness for only one (1) hour. only one (1) Fiscal will conduct cross-examination of each defense witness. Now, you are five (5) lawyers or six (6)? 

PROS. ESTRERA: 
          Six (6)- -

COURT: 
          Six (6).lawyers for the defense -  now, to give you one (1) hour each for cross-examination

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COURT:  (CONTINUATION) 
would be bothering the witness too much. Six (6) hours for cross-examination- that is unfair while the prosecution has only one (1) hour and only one (1) Fiscal will cross-examine. So, we will have to limit your cross-examination time. Maybe we should limit to 1 1/2 hour each but if a defense counsel wants to waive in favor of the lead counsel or another counsel, he may do s
o. Suppose Atty. Paylado if you want to waive your half hour to Atty. Armovit, alright then Atty. Armovit will have one (1) hour. So. of course, the defense can cross-examine the witness for only three (3) hours. Now, if everybody wants to cross-examine then you will .have only half an hour each. What do you think? Is that not fair enough? 

ATTY. ARMOVIT: 
          With all due respect, Your Honor. 

COURT:
          Yes.

ATTY. ARMOVIT:
          We are trying here non-bailable death penalty offenses and nothing less than the life of each is at stake. We respectfully would re
quest this Honorable Court to allow us on our own few of the needed time and effort to cross-examine. To go on with our cross-examination and if His Honor finds that we are wondering repeating questions then that is the time for His Honor, to stop us. Allow us, Your Honor please, because of the gravity of the offense to be able to exhaust our right to cross-examine because that is the only test of truth in the adversary system in our country.

COURT: 
          Yes, the test of cross-examination is the highest and most indispensable known to the law for the discovery of truth. You are quite correct there. But as I said if we give you One (1) hour each and with extension that would be unfair because the prosecution is given only

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COURT:    (CONTINUATION)
 
one (1) hour and only one (1) Fiscal will cross-examine. But you can agree among yourselves to give the right to cross-examine to only one of you of a particular witness. But we will allow you to waive in favor of your colleague. Is that not fair enough? Because if you cross-examine a witness for six (6) hours as what our Panero said he may request for extension, that is too much. 

ATTY. GICA:
          Your Honor please, in behalf of accused Josman Aznar, we adopt the manifestation of Atty. Armovit, Your Honor, with the additional manifestation that this is the only chance that we have, Your Honor, in order to effectively protect the interest of our clients by testing the credibility of a witness who had imputed something which we believe are untrue and full of falsity and falsehood. Without that cross-examination, the right to cross-examine the witness, Your Honor, where are we? 

COURT: 
          What are you asking for then? How long a time
do you want to cross-examine the witness each one of you- - -

ATTY. GIGA:
          The limit that is provided for under the Rules. If our cross-examination would go out of way. Your Honor, out of hand, no
longer on matters which were testified to on direct and no longer on matters which are relevant of the issues presented before this Honorable Court, then this Honorable Court can stop our cross-examination. 

COURT: 
          You mean there is no limit?
 

ATTY. GICA:
         
We are not limiting our cross, Your Honor.

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COURT:
          As to the time? 

ATTY. GICA:
          Your Honor please, w e are not limiting the prosecution to present their case and I hope that the prosecution also would understand the position of the defense and should not limit also the defense in exercising its right.

 COURT:
          We are speaking up of the cross-examination time it has to be limited, because there are six (6) defense counsels, e, papano ito? (So, how is this?) If we will limit to only one (1) hour, each counsel maybe subjected to six (6) hours of cross-examination and Atty. Armovit does not seems to be satisfied with just one (1) hour - 0, papano na ngayon yan? (So, how will that be now?) The responsibility of the Court is to control the trial, the presentation of evidence including the cross-examination- - - -

ATTY. GICA:
          You Honor please- - ­ 

COURT:
          We have to impose the examination.

ATTY. GICA: 
          Maybe, Your Honor, this much we can actually accept at this point in time. Like for example, if Atty. Armovit had already cross-examine a witness of the prosecution and one (1) defense counsel, the other defense counsel would adopt the cross-examination questions on those matters already touched by Atty. Armovit, then we should do so and limit ourselves to other matters not been touched.

COURT: 
          We agree then that the defense should not ask the same question?

(NOTE: For the benefit of our foreign readers, blue wordings is our translation from Tagalog (Philippine language) to English ...the webmaster).

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ATTY. GICA:
         
Yes, Your Honor. 

COURT: 
          No repetition of the question. 

ATTY. GICA: 
Yes. Your Honor.
 

COURT:
          But for the moment we will not make any time limitation.

ATTY. GICA: 
          Yes. Your Honor.

COURT:
 /to prosecutors: 

          What do you have to say? 

PROS. ESTRERA: 
          We request, Your Honor,
that in the case of accused Larranaga and Aznar who are represented by two (2) counsels, only one (1) should cross-examine. 

ATTY. GICA: 
          It depends. 

PROS. ESTRERA: 
          Only, one (1) should cross-examine, Your Honor.

COURT:
         
Tama naman yon. (I think that's right.)

ATTY. GICA:
          Because as I said, Your Honor, there  might be- -

COURT:
         
Dalawang abogado, dalawa pa ang magkrokroseksamin - (Two lawyers, two would still cross-examine -) But you have to decide which one

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COURT:    (CONTINUATION) 
will cross-examine, bakit dala-dalawa pa ang magkokroseksamin? (Why will two lawyers have to cross-examine?)

ATTY. GICA: 
          As I said, Your Honor, even if there are two (2) counsels but if the first counsel, the lead counsel of a certain client or accused appropriating to ask cross-examination questions, the same cross-examination questions cannot be covered anymore by the other counsel. 

COURT: 
          No, that does not apply when the accused is represented by two (2) lawyers. The two (2) lawyers can agree who will cross-examine and what are the questions to be asked. Kailangan pagsunduan ninyong dalawa iyon. (What's needed, the two lawyers should agree among each other).   You are representing the same person. So, who is representing- Larranaga and who else? 

PROS. ESTRERA: 
          Aznar, Your Honor. 

COURT: 
          Is being represented by two (2) lawyers?  

PROS. ESTRERA: 
          Yes. two (2) lawyers, Your Honor. 

COURT: 
          So, who is representing them? 

PROS. ESTRERA:
          Attys. Gonzales and Gica, Your Honor.

COURT:
          So, either one- if you cross-examine then Atty. Gonzales will no longer cross-examine or - - ­

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ATTY. GICA:

          Or Atty. Gonzales, can say, Your Honor, that Atty. Gica can proceed or can continue the
cross-examination. In other words, can beat me.

COURT:
          Yes, but not both of you will cross-examine - - 

ATTY. GICA: 
          Not both of us- - - 

COURT:
          Not both of you will cross-examine the same witness. 

ATTY. GICA: 
          Yes, Your Honor. If the other counsel like Atty. Gonzales would say that I may continue my cross-examination-­ 

COURT:
          That is fair enough. The only condition I want to impose is there must also be a time limit. Now. you may ask for extension. That is
what we did in the Abiabi Murder case. One (1) hour but reasonable extension period if the circumstances warrants. I am very liberal with respect to cross-examination because as I said that is the highest and most indispensable test known to the law for the discovery of truth. It is more important even than direct-examination because it is broader in scope than direct-examination because in cross-examination you can test the credibility of the witness, you can elicit all important facts bearing on the issue and test the sincerity of the witnesses, as well. So. it is a must broader right
than direct-examination and the Court is very liberal when it comes to cross-examination because our policy here is to ascertain the truth- we want to know the truth.

ATTY. GICA:
          Thank you, Your Honor.

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ATTY. GUBALANE: 
          May I be allowed to make manifestation,
Your Honor? 

COURT:
          Yes. 

ATTY. GUBALANE:
          As counsel an record for Davidson Rusia, Your Honor, I most respectfully ask this Honorable Court to relieve me as his counsel on the following grounds: First, he withheld vital
information in yesterday's direct-examination; Secondly, the Public Attorney's office represents clients who has no counsel. But yesterday's hearing Atty. Hermosisima represented him during the direct-examination. On the above grounds, Your Honor, I most urgently and respectfully ask this Honorable Court to relieve me as counsel for accused Rusia, Your Honor.

COURT:
          He withheld valuable informations? You mean he did not tell the truth?

ATTY. GUBALANE: 
          No, Your Honor. When I talked to him, yesterday he did not inform me
that he raped Jacqueline Chiang and nowhere in his Affidavit did I read about such incident. Your Honor please- - -

COURT:
          An eyewitness is not limited to the matters he stated in his affidavit.

ATTY. GUBALANE: 
          But he did not tell me before he testified, Your Honor please- ­

COURT:
          Well. an Affidavit is an ex-parte and by its very nature it is limited. That is why the

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COURT:     (CONTINUATION)
Supreme Court has always held that affidavits has superseded by the testimony in open court of the witness.

ATTY. GUBALANE:
          And secondly. Your Honor please, our office will represent an accused who has no counsel but in yesterday's  hearing he was actively represented by Atty. Hermosisima. In which case, I believe that I have no business at all in today's hearing. 

COURT: 
          We have to ask Atty. Hermosisima about that. 
/to Atty. Hermosisima: 
          Is it true that you are acting as a counsel for the witness-accused? 

ATTY. HERMOSISIMA: 
          No, Your Honor.
I am acting as private prosecutor. But since we are proposing, the Prosecutors are proposing  Mr. Rusia to be a state witness,  then it is incumbent upon the Prosecutors to present him as our witness, as our evidence.

COURT:
          You have to conduct the direct-examination of this witness because he was being asked to testify for the prosecution.

ATTY. GUBALANE:
          In my honest  belief, Your Honor, the actuations of good counsel Atty. Hermosisima in effect represent my supposed client Davidson Rusia, Your Honor.

COURT:
          By conducting the direct-examination?

ATTY. GUBALANE:
          Yes, Your Honor.

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COURT:
          But you cannot conduct the direct-examination. How can the Court allow you to conduct the direct-examination of a prosecution witness being a defense counsel? Only the private
prosecutor or the prosecutor himself, public prosecutor may conduct direct-examination of a prosecution witness- -

ATTY. GUBALANE: 
          In my honest belief, Your Honor, as to yesterday Davidson Rusia is still an accused in this case, Your Honor, please. That is what I believe. 

COURT:
      But an accused can always testify if he wants to for the Prosecution. 

ATTY. GUBALANE: 
          But in my belief. Your Honor, an accused as his counsel on record should have been the one who represents him. However, I am asking this Honorable Court to once and for all simplify this issue, I be relieved as his counsel on record. 

COURT: 
          Well, if you are reluctant to act as his coun
sel, the Court will designate another Public Attorney to represent him. Then who is present  now, Public Attorney? Where is Atty. Gonzalez? Is he here? He is the head of the PAO. (Addressing to Atty. Gubalane). You call Atty. Gonzales to replace you.

PROS. GALANIDA: 
          May I be allowed to say something, Your Honor? 

COURT:
          Yes.

PROS. GALANIDA:
          Davidson Rusia was represented yesterday, Your Honor, in support of our Motion to Discharge

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PROS. GALANIDA:      (CONTINUATION) 
because we are going to show to this Honorable Court that he possess all the qualifications to become a state witness. So, naturally- - - 

COURT: 
          Let us understand this clearly-  Rusia is still an accused. 

PROS. GALANIDA: 
          Yes 

COURT:  
          A
nd the Court has merely allowed the prosecution to present him as a prosecution witness. The Court has not yet ordered his discharge as an accused. The Court will do that only if it is satisfied that he is telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So, he remains as accused. However, as I said there is nothing in the law or in the rules which prohibits an accused from testifying against himself and against his co-accused. Bakit meron bang bawal doon?  (Why is there a prohibition on that?) If accused Larranaga wants to testify here against himself and against his- co-accused, why will I prevent him? Why will anybody prevent him? E, kung gusto niyai baki't ba? (So, If he wants to, why not?) Rusia wanted to testify against himself and against his co-accused. E, ano ang reklaso niny'o? (So, what is your complaint?) Ano ang reklamo nitong  Public Attorney natin? (What's the complaint of this Public Attorney of ours?) He wanted to do that. Alright, we will ask Atty. Gonzalez to replace you - -

/to Atty. Gonzales:
         
Atty. Gonzales please- - will you please replace your subordinate Public Attorney Gubalane because he does not want to act as defense counsel for Rusia anymore. So, the Court hereby relieved Atty. Gubalane of his duties as defense counsel and hereby appoints Public Attorney Gonzales as the defense counsel for Rusia. Alright, you may­ 

ATTY. GONZALEZ:
          May I say something, Your Honor?

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COURT: 
          Yes.  

ATTY. C. GONZALEZ: 
          I have discussed this matter with Atty. Gubalane, Your Honor, and I feel, Your
Honor, as I felt then that the failure of accused Rusia to inform Atty. Gubalane of a very material fact is very serious, Your Honor, and if I were in his shoes yesterday and I will deny these material information certainly if I was given this information, Your Honor, this could have guided we what to do, I could have advice Rusia so many things. 

COURT: 
          The point is, we have to proceed
with the trial today. We can ask Mr. Rusia if he is agreeable to designate another lawyer, his own lawyer aside from the PAO, he may be agreeable to do that.
 

/to Atty. C. Gonzalez: 
         
Alright, you will just represent him temporarily for purposes of this hearing. The Court is ordering you to do that because he is without counsel and we cannot proceed without him having a counsel. 

ATTY. PAYLADO: 
         
For the record, Your Honor please, we therefore understand the situation yesterday that when Mr. Rusia was called to the witness stand there was no proper advice from his counsel? 

ATTY. C. GONZALEZ: 
         
No, I will not agree with that, Your Honor.
There was no advice along that line because some material information was withheld from  the lawyers. How can we properly guide or advice the lawyers? I disagree with that statement. 

COURT: 
         
Whether or not he followed the advice of his lawyer is material, that an accused or a

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COURT:  (CONTINUATION) 
witness may or may not follow the advice of his lawyer so that doesn't make a difference. But the point is, since he is still an accused
he has to be represented by a counsel and the Court is at a loss who to appoint as his de oficio counsel. Well, since you are the only one available, I have to appoint one of you as the defense counsel for purposes of this hearing only. Now, we will ask Mr. Rusia to get his own lawyer if he can designate his own lawyer. We will ask the prosecution to help him find a lawyer because he is now a witness for the prosecution.

 ATTY. C. GONZALEZ: 
          May I say something, Your Honor? 

COURT: 
          Yes. 

ATTY. GONZALEZ: 
          With due respect. Your Honor please. may I suggest that with this statement of the Honorable Court that Rusia can look for his own lawyer, may I suggest that he will look for his lawyer right now- - - 

COURT: 
          The Court is ordering you to act as his lawyer today. You want me to send you to jail right now for Contempt
of Court? 

ATTY. C. GONZALEZ: 
          May I be allowed to- - - 

COURT: 
          Sit down. You are hereby appointed defense counsel for purposes of this hearing alone for Rusia. Atty. Gubalane may leave the Courtroom. 

ATTY. GUBALANE: 
          Thank you, Your Honor.

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COURT: 
          So, the Court has appointed Atty. Gonzalez as de oficio counsel for accused Rusia only for purposes of this hearing, unless Rusia now designate or appoint his own lawyer. Alright call the witness. 

ATTY. GICA: 
          Your Honor please, may I say something? 

COURT: Yes. 

ATTY. GICA: 
          Well, I think, Your Honor, before we start with the cross-examination of Mr. Rusia as a witness this matter would be faced down first. Why? Because the voluntariness of the actuations of Mr. Rusia is already put in issue by the manifestation of counsels. That there were some vital informations that were withheld and- - -
 

COURT: 
          Look, I already made a ruling on that that the witness or the accused is not bound by his affidavit. Neither is he bound to tell his lawyer everything. 

ATTY.  GICA: 
         
If the purpose of Mr. Rusia's assistance of counsel, Your Honor, is for Mr. Rusia to understand his rights and the import of his confession so that he will know the consequences, Your Honor. Perhaps Mr. Rusia was misled by some members of the prosecution, Your Honor, about these things- - - 

COURT: 
         
Why are we going to take up that now? We cannot take up that now. We are in the process of cross-examination of the witness. Why don't you ask him? 

ATTY. GICA: 
          The testimony, Your Honor- - -

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COURT: 
          We are going to ask him- were you coerced? Who is going to decide that? Me? Shall I
decide that he was coerced? Ask him when he is in the witness stand. 

ATTY. GICA: 
          But, he is not. represented with counsel, Your Honor. 

COURT: 
          Sit down, call the witness for cross-examination. 

ATTY. GONZALEZ: 
          May
I say something, Your Honor? 

COURT: 
          No, sit down. Stop this dilatory tactics. We will continue with the cross-examination. Alright, the ruling of this Court is that the the prosecution- - since he is now a prosecution witness, may interpose objections to the questions to be asked of this witness by the defense. Of course Atty. Gonzalez may also object if he wants to. Proceed with the cross-examination otherwise you should be deemed to have waived cross-examination of this witness. So, who will cross-examine first? 

ATTY. C. GONZALEZ: 
          May I say something. Your Honor? 

COURT: 
          No more, sit down. 

ATTY. C. GONZALEZ: 
          I just want this clarified, Your Honor. Is my appointment as counsel for witness Rusia is for his testimony only?

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COURT: 
          You are appointed as counsel for the defense, as counsel for the accused. He is still an accused but if he is openly discharge, you
are also discharge as counsel when he is no longer an accused. Since he still an accused you are acting or appointed as counsel for him as an accused although not as a witness because the prosecution has called him as a witness. Alright, you don't want to cross-examine this person? Sit down.

ATTY. C. GONZALEZ: 
          May we ask Mr. Rusia, Your Honor- - -

COURT:
          Sit down. I don't want to hear anything from you. Sit down. You are disturbing the
proceedings. We want to start the cross-examination and you kept talking. You are the defense counsel, why are you interrupting? Commence the cross-examination.

                                                                  (WITNESS TO THE STAND)

COURT INTERPRETER:  (To the witness) 
          You are reminded that you will be testifying under the same oath.

WITNESS: 
          Yes, I am. 

COURT INTERPRETER: 
          (Davidson Valiente Rusia testify under the same oath on cross-examination).
 

ATTY. ARMOVIT: 
         
Your Honor, for accused Larranaga. 

COURT: 
          Proceed.

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ATTY. ARMOVIT: 
          Your Honor, in consistent with our stand in these cases that we still have remedies with the Department of Justice and Supreme Court, we will cross-examine the witness subject to whatever resolutions will come out from remedies- - - - 

COURT:
          Agreed. 

ATTY. ARMOVIT: 
         
And also our cross-examination is not a Waiver of our objection to the inadmissibility of his testimony. 

COURT: 
          Yes, that is understood, you are not waiving
anything.  Proceed. 

ATTY. ARMOVIT: 
          May I now? 

COURT: 
          Yes.

                                                       CROSS-EXAMINATION OF THE WITNESS
                                                                       BY ATTY. R. ARMOVIT

      Q    Your testimony Yesterday was that while your group was driving along Archbishop Reyes Avenue, you came upon two (2) women at around 10:30 in the evening of July, 16, 1997? Correct? 

      A    Yes. sir. 

COURT:
 /to the witness: 

      Q    Before you proceed, let us ask him first- do you wish to designate another defense counsel for you instead of the Public Attorney's Office? You wish to designate another defense counsel? And who are you designating as your defense counsel? Because the Public

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COURT:     (CONTINUATION) 
Attorney's Office is reluctant to defend you or to act as your defense counsel. We do not want a reluctant defense counsel. If you want to appoint or designate a defense counsel, please
do so. Who are you calling or designating? If he is here I will appoint him immediately as your de oficio counsel. 

WITNESS: 
     
A    No, Your Honor. 

COURT: 
          So, for purposes of this hearing, the Public Attorney's office must continue to act as his
counsel. But next time, tomorrow, will you designate another counsel? 

WITNESS: 
      A    Yes, Your Honor. 

COURT: 
          In lieu of the Public Attorney's Office which
is reluctant to represent you. Alright, will the prosecution assist him in finding a new defense lawyer. He will act as defense lawyer only as long as the Court has not discharge him as an accused. 

PROS. GALANIDA: 
          We will do that, Your Honor. 

COURT/to defense counsel: 
          Proceed. 

ATTY. ARMOVIT:  
          Archbishop Reyes Avenue is west of Ayala Center. Correct?
 

WITNESS: 
      A    Yes, sir.
 

      Q    In between Ayala Center and Archbishop Reyes Avenue are the Ayala Center access road, a

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ATTY. ARMOVIT:   (CONTINUATION) 
parking space with water fountain. Am I correct? 

WITNESS: 
      A    Yes, sir. 

      Q    I would like you to make a sketch so that we can fully understand, this is very important thing. I give you a legal size bond, please draw two (2) parallel lines to indicate as Archbishop Reyes Avenue- - - - 

ATTY.  HERMOSISIMA: 
          May we request, Your Honor, that this paper be placed here? (Counsel handling over to the witness a record book so that the witness can comfortably draw). 

COURT INTERPRETER: 
          (Witness is preparing/drawing a sketch indicating two (2) parallel lines as Archbishop Reyes Avenue - - - -

ATTY. ARMOVIT: 
          May I make a manifestation, Your Honor? The witness has saved a lot of time and effort,
Your, Honor. Actually what he has done in this sketch is to draw two (2) Parallel lines and marked it as Archbishop Reyes and then another parallel line opposite Archbishop Reyes and labelled it Ayala road and there is a circle in between Archbishop Reyes Avenue and Ayala road. What does this circle indicate? 

WITNESS: 
      A    That is the Ayala fountain. 

ATTY. ARMOVIT: 
          Please label it. 
      Q    Likewise there are two (2) small rectangular figures adjoining
Archbishop Reyes Avenue. What are these? 

      A   
Wai
ting shed.

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ATTY. ARMOVIT: 
      Q    Where specifically in this sketch did your group come upon the two (2) women? Where? Please indicate by two (2) small circles. 

WITNESS: 
      A    This is an island- -
 

PROS. GALANIDA: 
          May I request, Your Honor, that what the witness had said while making the drawing there be also recorded. 

COURT INTERPRETER: 
          (Witness indicating in the drawing by writing the word "island" and then showing the location where Marijoy and Jacqueline were and placed two (2) circles which he drew and then labelled these two (2) circles and marked Marijoy and Jacqueline). 

ATTY. ARMOVIT: